Built in Forms Component
A built in forms component will be very useful and would increase more possibilities by integrating in to the core
Michael Reiter commented
A built in forms component would be very useful. Until now you always have to hope the forms component you are using will we updated to the next version of joomla , you have to wait months until it is updated or you see it won't. This means a lot of time lost because you maybe have to migrate by hand or can't migrate your code and have to rewrite it.
We need a native components as versatile as Chrono Forms. Front End Editing with the default editor is not as impressive as it might look. The problem that i am currently trying to solve is to create a form for users to collect the data and then the data is formatted using custom styles and inserted into the article.
The end user does not have to format the article, just have to fill the form and the article is created.
I could create this with SEBLOD, to some extent using Chronoforms and Form2Content. I would like to see a built in forms component into the core so that the documentation is perfect and this would reduce conflicts with other extensions. Usually when one extension becomes really important, it forces the administrator to shun all the extensions incompatible with it.
Unless the extension is implemented in the core this cannot be avoided!
Build Seblod as the applications extension framework within Joomla.. and use Bootstrap extensions to fulfill the function of CK.
Joomla must grow more as an applications/database tool, or it will become irrelevant over the next ten years imo. The CK should be as an extension to the frameworks that are commonly adopted in the ICT mobile environment, namely using Bootstrap because this appears to be the direction a bulk of the environment is going/accepting and extending across platforms, OS, and CMS systems.
Use of multiple CK breaks rather than fixes the purpose of Joomla as the common web-mobile-anywhere dev platform,
Seblod is well thought out as tool to build applications that can work within the core and Bootstrap/responsive environment that is needed in order to expose the power of the underlying database and web/mobile environment consistently.
Joomla CKs are becoming fractured and driven in different directions by template providers that also threaten to drive incompatible implementations of frameworks, Joomla remains short of its promise because it still has the impacts of a nearly broken base of developers.
Come together on core frameworks like Bootstrap and push CK on top. Add with ratings as to how much it modifies the core and is able to be removed without causing the content or core to break.
Joomla is at a cross roads of building on a great foundation or becoming unmanageable.
Alonzo Turner commented
Here is a link to a 2.5 compatible component that uses the admin interface to build xml files and then uses JForm to load the xml. It is very rough at this stage, but it should function as a good proof of concept. Data collected in the forms can be downloaded in CSV format.
Sheikh Pervez Hameed commented
Required very much
I'd like to see forms, but I would need some math capabilities to the forms, and ways to exploit the relational database options of mySQL.
think, this suggestion will solved automatically after implement "A native Content Construction Kit" in core ;)
This would be really good, I often use RS Forms which is pretty good but the thought of having forms built in would be perfect!
Thank you very much for Build in Forms. Go ahead.
Thanks for Forms. It is very much important for me. cause I need to collect specific information from user, so I'm looking for forms from begging. Now I satisfy.
I'd really like to see CKForms built into the core... In admin you can have create mutiple forms (simple contact / newsletter subscribe), all types of fields can be added (select, checkboxes (limited), radio, simple text input / password ect). There's also optional captcha and the CSS is pretty easy to figure out...
Best of all... it emails the owner, can send an autoresponder to the user and it SAVES the users inputted data to a database.... I use it ALL the time in 1.5 (no dev yet for 1.6/1.7)
yesterday i detected the possibility to extend the forms of user and contacts component by some buildin plugins. Its an easy way, because you only have to edit an xml file in order to get new form fields.
My 2 cents is this proposal:
- In most situations i do not need big forms with several tabs and previous/next mechanism, but the chance to ask individual data items in an array of fields
- a solution should cover the possibility to setup multiple forms with different data. (So maybe an extra field will be needed to "map" each forms data to a different table or a different forms id)
- complicated forms should be implemeted with third party extensions.
This could be implemented with some enhanced mechanism of the new user/contacts profile plugins. Its simple to implement and xml paramertization is simple to handle.
How you think about it?
Dan Knauss commented
How would this differ from a CCK ("content construction kit") in core?
Built in Forms Component
A built in forms component (such as breezingforms... ) will be very , very (!) useful and would increase more possibilities by integrating in to the core
Drew Norman commented
This is one of the easiest form builders I have found on the web. I use this code builder inside all my joomla websites http://phpfmg.sourceforge.net/
Erick B commented
absolutely necessary , a simple contact for is always needed
all compenets i tried for joomla forms was having a lot of problems and needs ages to understand and work with. we need simple form creation in joomla.
I absolutely agree with your idea forms are very important we always use it. Its better that when we install joomla we get a built in forms component..
i vote for it..
I've always been shocked that Joomla didn't include a forms tool. What website doesn't need a form of one kind or another. I vote for this.
very very good idea ! It Must Required.