A native Content Construction Kit
The possibilty to create custom content types. Choose the fields and fieldtypes they should have. The works.
The integration of Flexicontent in the core.
Simple... the same stuff of extra-fields from K2 in the Joomla native article core... and article styles overrides from K2 too... And K2 image handling too, and... a lot of other stuff from K2 xD
Having the Joomla Article system and K2 Article system in the same site, dunno don't make any sense to me.
Joomla could let extensions developers to make nice effects or tools for sites. But, in case of K2 is like the CMS isn't joomla anymore, it's only K2.
It's just constructive criticism, but how can a serius team like joomla let a extension replace the basic function of any cms: article handling?
3 votes here. Regards!
Home builder content is very good! But now, for me there is no such necessity. I have Seblod. A little more and he will do what I want. The third party in this matter gives competition. And that means striving to improve what we have. You can not take away the opportunity for people to create an extension for Joomla.
Sundar Nadimpalli commented
Any CCK that adds content into native Joomla articles is welcome. This is a very important feature if we (Joomla website developers) need to help Non-technical people to manage their websites easily.
Use new version of FLEXIcontent all are in ! And impact in performances
and a powerful filter too!
Nathan Todd commented
It's a shame when an open source project becomes more of a competition - imagine if the developers of K2, ZOO etc etc all worked together on a native CCK?
Havn't tried all the CCK extensions, but TZ Portfolio is looking hopeful - it actually INTEGRATES with Joomla (articles, categories, users) rather than creating a whole new set of items to worry about.
Gavin Cole commented
CCK in the core would mean users could avoid minimise the amount of 3rd party extensions needed to perform certain tasks. This would be a welcome thing from a security standpoint. However, with CCK your would need something similar to Views in Drupal in order to output the content in whatever fashion you wish.
After working with K2 (the most favored of them) for the past few websites. It's very lacking and full of issues. After configuring Joomla, we have to go again to configure K2 all over again.
Joomla is just a few more steps from K2 when you realy think about it. So, why not just go the rest of the way?
joomla has awesome cck extensions of its own
The lack of a good cck is not the problem that has to be addressed, but the real problems are as follows
1. The lack of good documentation for any cck
If only cck was in the core then it would become a necessity for the authors to write about cck with proper documentation. This becomes a huge problem since most of the ccks are so huge (seblod) that they cannot be understood without documentation.
2. The cck becomes the center stage of the website
CCK often becomes the show stopping extension on the site. The whole site runs around the cck. Every other extension must be compatible with it to work. This phenomenon has caused the ccks to have eco systems of add-ons working only for them. The jed has about 100 k2 specific extensions and another 100 zoo specific extensions! I don't understand this!
3. The compatibility issue
Most of these ccks except - flexi content, seblod and content builder; either replace the joomla core tables or have tables of their own. This disturbs the site altogether. When you try to test them, they usually destabilize the whole site
I believe in freedom but choice of cck has become a restriction rather than freedom for both users and developers and so joomla must have a cck of it's own.
Respectfully, anyone who thinks that CCK as an extension (not integrated into the core) is a good solution does not really understand what "cck" is all about. Having a CCK integrated will mean that it will become a Joomla standard and all extentions, template clubs etc. will adapt. It will also integrate with the existing UI instead of adding a crufty external component. Besides extending forms and content types, a well thought out CCK will vastly improve Joomla's poor usability for end users/content managers since the site builder will be able to tailor all of Joomla's many options (and many times needless for a particular site). What's more is every other modern CMS aside from Joomla has CCK/Fields in the CORE. This includes Wordpress, Drupal, Expression Engine, Modx, Silverstripe, Processwire, the list goes on and on. Why not Joomla? I was a huge and optimistic fan of Joomla for years but I have watched it become irrelevant because of backwards views likes these.
Jaanus Nurmoja commented
I think Fabrik component does enough and 100 times more :) You get it from
Rodrigo Kammer commented
adding microformats to it
JiCustomFields by Jinfinity basically solves this issue. The best part is that it uses Joomla Core Articles. This gives flexibility between Joomla versions and even between other 3rd-party extensions.
(Disclaimer: I helped write the code behind JiCustomFields)
Any news on this?
I just want FlexiContent to be integrated with Joomla. Its perfect :-)
I wish this will happen soon.
first, could you apologise my bad english ?
so, I vote for a CCK who respect :
- the table structure (table>field>content) with calculated fields like Fabrik, when you have to export tables from an other application.
- ergonomy like Flexicontent (drag&drop, french native^^, esthétic)
- articles "spreadables" into multiples categories natively
I hope that 3.0 will provide us theses features !!!!
We need simple extendable CMS, where custom content types will suits all our needs. We see that in Wordpress and Drupal. Hope we'll see that in JOOMLA core any time soon !!!
Hassan Barjas commented
I've switched to drupal coz of joomla's lack for CCK